Comments on: How to Solve Lima’s Missing Manhole Crisis in a Hurry http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/ slices of my life in Peru Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:56:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Natalia http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2139 Natalia Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:21:58 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2139 Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems. Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems.

]]> By: Barry from Oklahoma http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2136 Barry from Oklahoma Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:39:42 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2136 According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can't blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won't go away. They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don't know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed. Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place. As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street. Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn't trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it. According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can’t blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won’t go away.

They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don’t know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed.

Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place.

As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street.

Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn’t trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it.

]]> By: Barb http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-207 Barb Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:29:30 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-207 Antonio, I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it). So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm? Antonio,
I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it).

So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm?

]]> By: Antonio http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-205 Antonio Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:50:53 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-205 I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem. I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem.

]]> By: Barb http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-148 Barb Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:18:37 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-148 Rosa -- The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won't acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action. It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program. Rosa — The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won’t acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action.

It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program.

]]> By: Rosa http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Rosa Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:39:01 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-140 In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager's family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works. In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager’s family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works.

]]> By: Alejandro http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/ slices of my life in Peru Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:56:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 Comments on: How to Solve Lima’s Missing Manhole Crisis in a Hurry http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/ slices of my life in Peru Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:56:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Natalia http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2139 Natalia Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:21:58 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2139 Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems. Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems.

]]> By: Barry from Oklahoma http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2136 Barry from Oklahoma Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:39:42 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2136 According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can't blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won't go away. They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don't know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed. Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place. As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street. Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn't trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it. According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can’t blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won’t go away.

They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don’t know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed.

Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place.

As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street.

Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn’t trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it.

]]> By: Barb http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-207 Barb Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:29:30 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-207 Antonio, I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it). So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm? Antonio,
I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it).

So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm?

]]> By: Antonio http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-205 Antonio Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:50:53 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-205 I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem. I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem.

]]> By: Barb http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-148 Barb Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:18:37 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-148 Rosa -- The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won't acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action. It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program. Rosa — The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won’t acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action.

It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program.

]]> By: Rosa http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Rosa Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:39:01 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-140 In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager's family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works. In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager’s family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works.

]]> By: Alejandro http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2139 Natalia Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:21:58 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2139 Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems. Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems.

]]> Comments on: How to Solve Lima’s Missing Manhole Crisis in a Hurry http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/ slices of my life in Peru Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:56:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Natalia http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2139 Natalia Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:21:58 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2139 Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems. Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems.

]]> By: Barry from Oklahoma http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2136 Barry from Oklahoma Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:39:42 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2136 According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can't blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won't go away. They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don't know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed. Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place. As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street. Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn't trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it. According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can’t blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won’t go away.

They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don’t know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed.

Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place.

As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street.

Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn’t trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it.

]]> By: Barb http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-207 Barb Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:29:30 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-207 Antonio, I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it). So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm? Antonio,
I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it).

So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm?

]]> By: Antonio http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-205 Antonio Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:50:53 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-205 I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem. I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem.

]]> By: Barb http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-148 Barb Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:18:37 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-148 Rosa -- The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won't acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action. It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program. Rosa — The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won’t acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action.

It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program.

]]> By: Rosa http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Rosa Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:39:01 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-140 In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager's family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works. In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager’s family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works.

]]> By: Alejandro http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2136 Barry from Oklahoma Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:39:42 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2136 According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can't blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won't go away. They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don't know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed. Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place. As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street. Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn't trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it. According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can’t blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won’t go away.

They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don’t know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed.

Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place.

As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street.

Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn’t trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it.

]]> Comments on: How to Solve Lima’s Missing Manhole Crisis in a Hurry http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/ slices of my life in Peru Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:56:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Natalia http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2139 Natalia Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:21:58 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2139 Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems. Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems.

]]> By: Barry from Oklahoma http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2136 Barry from Oklahoma Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:39:42 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2136 According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can't blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won't go away. They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don't know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed. Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place. As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street. Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn't trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it. According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can’t blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won’t go away.

They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don’t know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed.

Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place.

As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street.

Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn’t trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it.

]]> By: Barb http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-207 Barb Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:29:30 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-207 Antonio, I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it). So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm? Antonio,
I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it).

So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm?

]]> By: Antonio http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-205 Antonio Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:50:53 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-205 I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem. I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem.

]]> By: Barb http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-148 Barb Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:18:37 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-148 Rosa -- The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won't acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action. It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program. Rosa — The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won’t acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action.

It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program.

]]> By: Rosa http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Rosa Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:39:01 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-140 In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager's family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works. In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager’s family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works.

]]> By: Alejandro http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-207 Barb Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:29:30 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-207 Antonio, I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it). So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm? Antonio,
I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it).

So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm?

]]> Comments on: How to Solve Lima’s Missing Manhole Crisis in a Hurry http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/ slices of my life in Peru Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:56:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Natalia http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2139 Natalia Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:21:58 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2139 Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems. Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems.

]]> By: Barry from Oklahoma http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2136 Barry from Oklahoma Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:39:42 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2136 According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can't blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won't go away. They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don't know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed. Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place. As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street. Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn't trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it. According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can’t blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won’t go away.

They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don’t know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed.

Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place.

As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street.

Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn’t trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it.

]]> By: Barb http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-207 Barb Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:29:30 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-207 Antonio, I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it). So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm? Antonio,
I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it).

So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm?

]]> By: Antonio http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-205 Antonio Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:50:53 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-205 I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem. I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem.

]]> By: Barb http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-148 Barb Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:18:37 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-148 Rosa -- The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won't acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action. It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program. Rosa — The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won’t acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action.

It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program.

]]> By: Rosa http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Rosa Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:39:01 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-140 In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager's family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works. In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager’s family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works.

]]> By: Alejandro http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-205 Antonio Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:50:53 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-205 I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem. I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem.

]]> Comments on: How to Solve Lima’s Missing Manhole Crisis in a Hurry http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/ slices of my life in Peru Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:56:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Natalia http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2139 Natalia Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:21:58 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2139 Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems. Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems.

]]> By: Barry from Oklahoma http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2136 Barry from Oklahoma Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:39:42 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2136 According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can't blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won't go away. They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don't know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed. Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place. As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street. Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn't trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it. According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can’t blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won’t go away.

They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don’t know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed.

Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place.

As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street.

Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn’t trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it.

]]> By: Barb http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-207 Barb Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:29:30 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-207 Antonio, I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it). So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm? Antonio,
I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it).

So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm?

]]> By: Antonio http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-205 Antonio Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:50:53 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-205 I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem. I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem.

]]> By: Barb http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-148 Barb Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:18:37 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-148 Rosa -- The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won't acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action. It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program. Rosa — The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won’t acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action.

It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program.

]]> By: Rosa http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Rosa Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:39:01 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-140 In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager's family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works. In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager’s family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works.

]]> By: Alejandro http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-148 Barb Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:18:37 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-148 Rosa -- The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won't acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action. It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program. Rosa — The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won’t acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action.

It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program.

]]> Comments on: How to Solve Lima’s Missing Manhole Crisis in a Hurry http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/ slices of my life in Peru Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:56:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Natalia http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2139 Natalia Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:21:58 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2139 Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems. Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems.

]]> By: Barry from Oklahoma http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2136 Barry from Oklahoma Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:39:42 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2136 According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can't blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won't go away. They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don't know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed. Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place. As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street. Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn't trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it. According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can’t blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won’t go away.

They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don’t know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed.

Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place.

As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street.

Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn’t trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it.

]]> By: Barb http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-207 Barb Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:29:30 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-207 Antonio, I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it). So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm? Antonio,
I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it).

So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm?

]]> By: Antonio http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-205 Antonio Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:50:53 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-205 I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem. I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem.

]]> By: Barb http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-148 Barb Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:18:37 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-148 Rosa -- The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won't acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action. It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program. Rosa — The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won’t acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action.

It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program.

]]> By: Rosa http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Rosa Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:39:01 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-140 In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager's family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works. In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager’s family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works.

]]> By: Alejandro http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Rosa Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:39:01 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-140 In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager's family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works. In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager’s family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works.

]]> Comments on: How to Solve Lima’s Missing Manhole Crisis in a Hurry http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/ slices of my life in Peru Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:56:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Natalia http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2139 Natalia Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:21:58 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2139 Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems. Good afternoon! The main problem about SEDAPAL is that it is a national company. So it is full of bureaucrats that are not interested in solving problems.

]]> By: Barry from Oklahoma http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-2136 Barry from Oklahoma Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:39:42 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-2136 According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can't blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won't go away. They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don't know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed. Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place. As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street. Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn't trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it. According to my wife, nothing you can do will prevent the manhole covers from disappearing. If you place a manhole cover it will disappear within 24 hours no matter what you do to try to secure it. You can’t blame the company for something impossible to fix. Until they find something to seal them that has no value the problem won’t go away.

They have slick operations where they take the lids and melt them down or cut them into pieces and then sell the metal in a manner that the dealers don’t know where it came from. These are the operations that need to be nailed.

Going on she says they even tried to close them with cement covers in her neighborhood. What happened then is that criminals would have a couple of guys grab them and use them to break down a door and enter to rob a place.

As to the comment on welding them shut, she says that people throw all kinds of junk into the sewer and that the company needs constant access to keep the sewage from backing up and flowing into the street.

Perhaps there is something to the fact that the company isn’t trying much to fix the problem, but it is because the company has probably just gotten discouraged from being unable to resolve it.

]]> By: Barb http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-207 Barb Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:29:30 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-207 Antonio, I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it). So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm? Antonio,
I do think that using locks, as one reader suggested, is part of the solution. Your idea of prosecuting the vendors is another part. The police could easily hunt down the dealers in stolen manhole covers (actually, a decent investigative reporter could do it).

So maybe the problem is authorities are being paid to look the other way, hmmm?

]]> By: Antonio http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-205 Antonio Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:50:53 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-205 I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem. I dont think replacing the missing lids or using grills and welding them to the grouund will solve the issue as long as there is a financial incentive to stealing them. The lids are not being stolen by kids trying to make a prank but by people trying to get some money out of it. I think as well as replacing the lids, a plan should be put in place to catch te people that buys the lids and charge them with Accessory to Murder/Manslaughter since that was the result of their acctions. Getting rid of the people tha buys, melts, and sells the lids would be a good step on solving this problem.

]]> By: Barb http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-148 Barb Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:18:37 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-148 Rosa -- The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won't acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action. It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program. Rosa — The solution you suggest (putting grills) has been made by many intelligent people in Peru, in response to the problem. The solution is clear; what boggles the mind is that Sedapal won’t acknowledge this solution and refuses to take action.

It is so idiotic. Cities all over the world (in Miami, New York, Chicago, Paris) put grills with locks. Peru needs to get with the program.

]]> By: Rosa http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Rosa Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:39:01 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-140 In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager's family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works. In Downtown Miami they place a grill on manholes they actually weld them to the surrounding concrete. They should do that there. Maybe the teenager’s family can sue Sedapal, monetary punishment sometimes is the only thing that works.

]]> By: Alejandro http://americaninlima.com/2008/07/31/how-to-solve-limas-missing-manhole-crisis-in-a-hurry/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Alejandro Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:10:20 +0000 http://americaninlima.com/?p=106#comment-47 Quite simply, a sad story... Quite simply, a sad story…

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